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Macsbug Synchroniser@ Pierre Reprint@ Robertson@ Slims@ Their Uploaders@ Willingness@ HBAM2001MAY84 FileMakerModel:* Literary Topics Fiction 922722 922733 922302 922319 922722 Helvetica Geneva N Helvetica Narrow Monaco 100043.2450 1000432450 100265.3535 1002653535 100333.3472 1003333472 100705.3303 16:15:24 16:17:00 19:52 21310 21312 385-21-332250q 5y0hvcuwtcb 6tgvtu-0002prc Mennohouse Message-id Nexus Otvorene-oci Public Qaa04161 Received Rudisbox Sdereta Sender Smail3.1.29.1 Srdjan Student Uni-kl Weisenberger Wiehler Zamir-tz Zamir-zg Zconnect Zerberus Ztnur 9/4/96 CONTENTS FORUM MESSAGEID MESSAGETYPE 12/16/94 12/16/94 A Layout #1 A Layout #1B SourceB SessionDateB SessionTimeB ForumB SectionB MessageTypeB A MessageIDB ReplyToB SendDateB SendTimeB SubjectB FromB ContentsB ReceiveDateB ReceiveTimeB totoB @3A Layout #1 A Layout #1B REPLYTO SECTION SENDDATE SENDTIME SESSIONDATE SESSIONTIME SOURCE SUBJECT 08/08/96D 18:34E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 896574J 05/12/96K 23:57L CRG VOTING!!M#Janet Holmes, SL/Fiction 70474,2660N It's time to vote for the CRG selections for July, August, & September. This time, we'll vote separately for the September selection, aiming for a 'big' book. So we'll tally the votes this way: 1. First book (3 points) 2. Second book (2 points) 3. September book (1 point) Here are the nominees: Source Session start Forum Message sent Section Subject Reply to message Message number or ID Message Message Nassim Perhaps Phone Policy Quality Readers Relationship Reply Represent Representing Required Response Roger Safer Scimed Scinews-mednews Several Still Subject Suggest Summary Thanks Thanksgiving Thoughtful Tightly Trust Uploaders Won't Would Pro 2.0 - 2.1F! Pro 2.0 - 2.1I UK English - Spelling User Dictionary 02prc V0.74a Tel/fax Pppmac Sysop Choose Descriptions Enhanced Knowing Pppmac Sysop Peacekeeping Russia-yeltsin M"Lynne Perednia/Co-SLS6 102777,3134N Rick 76766,2701 Hi Rick, The only membership requirement is participation. It's a lot easier on all of us that way! Hope to see you think about SECRET SHARER. Regards, Lynne 08/08/96D 18:35E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 922302J 07/29/96K 21:29L CRG: HamletM Charles Lewis 72356,3326N Mira Brown 100425,170 >> what do you think? . If the soul is FictionJ Perednia/co-sls6@ 2500@ AgainI Bedford@ Captain@ Claudius Context@ Discretionary@ First@ Heroes Invented@ Laertes@ Latter@ MadeE Mann@ Membership@ Point@ Reason@ Selection@ Standing@ State@ These@ Vote@ WorthyO Harris@ Harry@ Margaret REPLYTO Ideas & Inventions forumF Ideas to Market [9]G 37601I 37580J 08/22/95K 00:37L SITUATION #1M FRANCIS C. MORELLI 102511,1311N Mark Pease 73060,2114 PMark, be patient, I am in the same position, but a little further on. I found Na lot of information in the ads in the back of magazines. Start out at the ages and was Guide Tightly Challenging Message Spector@ Campaign@ Characteristically@ Darkness@ Doubt@ From@ Guys@ Handset@ Impulse Kerouac@ Maggie@ Near@ Powerful@ Proust@ Selections@ Straight-forward Wade@ Hunting@ Invention@ North@ Overseas@ Professionals@ Pull@ Rife@ Section@ Spreadsheet@ Technologies@ Ubrique@ Vincent@ Zipit ion has come through for lots of people. zI also found a Victorian book readers site at http://www.quake.net/~autopen/victorian.books.html which may prove helpful. Please pass these on to your wife and go practice how much starch one should apply to one's slippers! Hope the sites prove helpful. Regards, Lynne First Fleeting Flippant Following Follows Forced Foreshortened Found Freud Fuddy Fuedal Funny Further Gaskell Gather General Germany Gertrude Gestapo Grant Great Greek Greeks Ground Group Guards Guile Hamlet Hamlets Hands Happens 11:10L CRG: HamletM Philip G. Bonfanti 103700,1131N Henry Slofstra 73623,403 Hello Henry. Have been traveling the past few weeks and didn't receive your post until today. I know the Hamlet discussion is over, but I found the following question interesting: N>>Based on your comments, could we be slipping into some kind of Dark Ages?<< A collaboration wouldn't surprise me as I remember Conrad and Ford Madox Ford were good buddies. But I have to do a little looking around to find the title myself! Regards, Lynne 08/06/96K 16:25L Thomas PynchonM Andrew S. Niemyer 73510,1763N rick wallach 103361,40 Rick: << It would be interesting to see Hamlet done in Nazi Germany, with Claudius as Hitler and Polonius as head of the Gestapo! >> They could call it Hamlets Heroes. Werner Klemperer as Polonius, Bob Crane (name correct?) as Hamlet. General Burkhaldter as Claudius. Brunehilda (name correct?) as Gertrude. Sgt. Shultz can do both R&G - hes big enough. -Henry Slofstra 08/08/96D 18:36E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 922464J 07/30/96K 09:17 Reason Reasons Receive Recognized Regards Reinforces Related Remember Remembrance Reply Replying Requirement Requirements Resolve Richest Roman Romance Ropes Scared Score Second Secret Seeing Seems Started Stayed Stranger Stratford Stronger Suggest Summer Suspicion Tally Tells Thanks Madness Madox Maggie Magic Mailbox Mainly Major me jobs while being told they have to go to work even if their paycheck can't cover daycare for their children may be a little more important right now as a feminist issue. I certainly hope so, anyway, because basic human needs like food and shelter need attending before we can get to the intellectual needs. Panic Participation Parting Parts Peace Perhaps Period Personal Personally Philip Piled Pitching Places ed 50 years on the island. Along the way quite a number of little [Wittmers came into being. Possibly, it was one of these who became the old man on Isabela. -Henry Slofstra 08/08/96D 18:35E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 922413J 07/30/96K 02:28 Context Contradictions Contradicts Convention Converse Correct Corresponds Corrupt Could Crane Cranford Cycle Cycles Cyclical Darkness Death Decision Defect Definitely Delay Denmark Desire Didn't Direct Discovers aring from you. 08/08/96D 18:35E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 922757I 922465J 07/31/96K 04:03L War and Peace: Prelude could perhaps account for his lack of resolve and plan -- his helplessness at the hands of Claudius. I dont agree with Hamlet wanting to send Claudius to hell. His form of justice could be some kind of direct confrontation such as a duel. Hamlet puts great store in The Mousetrap catching the king -- could he be mirroring Shakespeares own pretensions in some way? To Philip G. Bonfanti: +% << Is Hamlet a 20th century man? >> 07/29/96K 22:00L CRG: HamletM Henry Slofstra 73623,403N Charles Lewis 72356,3326 >> On a personal note, I have to admit that I never really appreciated how funny Shakespeare's comedies were until I started seeing them on stage. << We had the privilege of seeing Maggie Smith in a number of productions at Stratford (Canada's) back in the Seventies. She was extremely funny. Definitely made me a Shakespeare fan for life. (Between Maggie I have always been intrigued by Yeat's theories on the cyclical nature of history. (I need to state before I go any further that I have only a fleeting knowledge/understanding of them, but the idea is intriguing.) Rather than 2000 year cycles, I've toyed with the idea of the history of Western Civilization falling into 1500 year cycles each further divided into 500 year parts as follows: & First cycle: 1000 bc - 500 ad wallach 103361,40 Fiction 896574 922302 922317 922319 922464 922466 922554 922619 922722 922732 922733 923351 923848 923947 924372 924483 924604 922302 922319 922464 922466 922554 922722 923351 923848 924372 Yes, I do agree with that statement. Id express that weakness as an ineptitude or lack of experience, or perhaps even a portion of his madness. The more we discuss this the more enigmatic Hamlet seems. (NI-IKNS) . I feel youre too literal in reading my point on Hamlets desire for truth and justice. In the context of medieval Denmark, the king is the law. So, Hamlets desire must be a vague one. And this g able to scrawl notes. The last beach reading I did (living in Florida, it seems superfluous to drive somewhere for sunshine) was on James Bay beach on James Island in the Galapagos Islands a couple of years ago and the book was the huge, single-edition paperback of Yukio Mishima's *Sea of Fertility* tetralogy. With my view thus blocked, a sea lion shuffled up in front of that he does come close to the edge. Thus his explosion at Ophelia when he discovers that she has betrayed him is a bit stronger than reason would suggest; after all, she does have filial obligations, too. Unfortunately, his act only increases the king's suspicion, so it was the wrong decision. Had Hamlet simply stayed quiet, the king would have had no reason to believe the young prince knew anything. 08/08/96D 18:34E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 922317 922554I 922302J 07/30/96K 13:09L CRG: HamletM Mira Brown 100425,170N Charles Lewis 72356,3326 I agree. Probably, it's his age that's confusing. Personally I think he's really quite young and dear old WS just made a mistake over Yoicks skull. After all, Hamlet is a student - if he was the age indicated est of tree-sized opuntia cacti, each guarded by its own jealous iguana, sticks in my mind (that's a joke), a lagoon full of courting sea turtles, and a About Account Across Acting Actually Adherence Admit After Again he first part typical, in twhich case I'll drop out. Or is there a hidden greatness that will reveal itself in spite of what I see as flaws?>> Conrad Hamlet Secret Sharer Voting 100425170 1027773134 1037001131 704742660 723563326 73623403 760022454 767662701 Bonfanti Brown Charles Henry Holmes Janet Lewis Lynne do it, as the commercial says. ->> Have you read anything by C.J. Cherryh?<< State Stated Statement States Stayed Stiff Still Store Story Straight-forward Stranger Stratford Stretching Stronger Student Subject Suggest Summer Sundry Surprise Suspicion Switch System Taken Tally Tedious Tells Thanks have you think. << Latter Learning Leggatt Letter Lewis Light Lined Literal Little Livid Longer Looking Lurking Lynne Madeed to rise above all that. Of course, they are probably not very popular in some feminist circles (which has been noted in another thread here lately are widely divergent among Again Agree Aiming Always American Analysis -Henry Slofstra 08/08/96D 18:35E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 922632I 922618J 07/30/96K 17:46L War and Peace: PreludeM rick wallach 103361,40N Henry Slofstra 73623,403 Selection Selections Sense Separately September Serious Seventies Several Shakespeare Shakespeare's Shakespeares Sharer Shipmate Short Shows Shultz Sidelines Similar Simplistic Simply Since Situation Skull Slays Slipping Slofstra Smith Social Society Sorry Sounds Soviet Speech Spoilt ndard I've only toyed with the idea and keep it tucked away in the back of my mind mainly for the question it begs, the one you asked: could we be slipping into some kind of Dark Ages? (And what would bring on that #Dark Ages? Information overload?) Way off the subject, Phil. 08/08/96D 18:36E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 923351J 08/02/96K 01:12L CRG: SECRET SHARERM"Lynne Perednia/Co-SLS6 102777,3134N Russian society as a whole must mature as well. I mean, I think it's pretty clear that he wasn't mad at all, but I'm not quite sure that all his outrage was for the best of reasons. << He tells Horatio and the guards that he will put on an 'antic disposition,' so that is proof for me that he is not actually insane, but acting. However, at times I think he is so upset by the entire situation you know her books about the hardboiled privat investigator carlotta? Laertes ere will be an article about his 'theft' of the manuscript in one of the major linguistics journals shortly. I'll let you know as soon as I track it down. -rick wallach 08/08/96D 18:35E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 922551I 922290J 07/30/96K 13:09L War and Peace: PreludeM Mira Brown 100425,170N rick wallach 103361,40 lThis is amazing - I can't wait. I've read the book a dozen times but had very little info about the writer. 01:03L CRG: HamletM"Lynne Perednia/Co-SLS6 102777,3134N Charles Lewis 72356,3326 Charles, oThanks to you and everyone else. I've really enjoyed cheering all on from the sidelines; lots of great ideas. Regards, Lynne 08/08/96D 18:35E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 923848I 922554J 08/03/96K 17:29L CRG: HamletM Charles Lewis 72356,3326N Mira Brown 100425,170 E>> By the way, I wasn't serious about the Oedipus complex at all. << 23,403 Perednia/co-sls6 Philip Sl/fiction Slofstra Sullivan 100425170 1027773134 723563326 73623403 760022454 767662701 Brown Charles Henry Lewis Lynne Perednia/co-sls6 Slofstra Sullivan Account Acting Actually Adherence Admit After Again `Send your votes to me, and by the end of May we'll have all our summer reading lined up. Thanks! 08/08/96D 18:35E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 922722J 07/31/96K 00:14L CRG: ConradM Rick 76766,2701N"Lynne Perednia/Co-SLS6 102777,3134 hI just read this and would enjoy pitching it, but I sense membership requirements lurking herein. Yes? 08/08/96D 18:35E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 922733I 922722J 07/31/96K 01:03L CRG: Conrad Conrad condemn Leggatt for killing the unruly shipmate? Or is the captain the protagonist and Leggatt the means through which Conrad shows how the young captain becomes worthy of command? Also, I'd be interested to see what anyone thinks in comparing SECRET SHARER with HEART OF DARKNESS -- both with unnamed narrators identifying with men who have gone over the edge of civilized behavior. Is SS cy's wThis month's Classics Reading Group selection is Joseph Conrad's THE SECRET SHARER, as evocative as anything he wrote. It is a straight-forward enough narrative and coming-of-age story for a young captain embarking on his first command. But what is the story about? Is the secret sharer of the captain's life a hero? Does << But I'm willing to grant that he also has the noble desire for truth and justice, and I agree that this is certainly a major reason for his delay. I would still argue, however, that this is a tragic flaw, ^since his desire is taken to excess and I would still argue that he vacilates quite a bit. >> I see your point. << A man of thought, Hamlet acts only when forced to do so or in the heat of the moment (the death of Polonius and the switch of R&G's letter). >> August Avoid Avoided Based Become Becomes Betrayed Between Bible Bonfanti Bonkers Borne Brian Brunehilda Burkhaldter Camus Can't Canada's Catching Causes Century Certainly Characteristically Charles Cheering Claudius By the end of the play he is explicitly stated to be 30 - how young is that at a period when life expectancy could be as low as 40? << Youth, is perhaps too simplistic. Political naivete, lack of guile, innocence -- all related to youth. Since Bible days the standard for life expectancy has been three score and ten though this has been *foreshortened at sundry times and places. << We haven't even got Stage Standard chase a copy of your book as soon as it's published. I plan to write an essay on Pynchon, but first have to dive deeper into Gravity's Rainbow to be ready for that. I have in my library a copy of Clifford Meads Pynchon-bibliography published by the Dalkey Archive Press (is there another one?) and about one dozend of studies and collections on Pynchon. And I know there's a lot more. Worthy Would Wouldn't Written Wrong Wrote Yeat's Yoicks Yorick Young Youre Youth lf and be sursprised! Especially interesting was a site that presented Pynchons uncollected writings %(articles and reviews) for download. Discretionary Discuss Discussion Disdain Disposition Diversity Divided Doesnt Doubt Duddy prefer not to discuss. -Ken Russell 08/08/96D 18:35E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 922290J 07/29/96K 20:56L War and Peace: PreludeM rick wallach 103361,40N Mira Brown 100425,170 ^Thanks much -- Pavic is my 'flame' at the moment, and any info about him will be appreciated. Bedford Before Behavior Believe Beowulf Betrayed Between Bible Bonfanti Bonkers Borne Brian Bring Brunehilda Buddies Burkhaldter Business Camus Can't Canada's Certainly Characteristically Charles Cheering Civilization Classics Claudius Means Medieval essages Middle Miserables Moment Mountain Naivete Never Ni-ikns Noble Nominees Number Obligations Ophelia Ophelias Opinion Othen Outrage Participation Parting Peace Perhaps Period Personal Piled Pitching Places The Heroic age of the Greeks corresponds with the Dark Ages of Europe (The Iliad, Beowulf, etc.); Greek City States corresponds with the Fuedal society of the middle ages; and the Roman Empire corresponds with the exploration empires of the modern age. (With the fall of the Soviet Union, is the United States the last standing empire?) Fiction [6]G 922040I 921999J 07/29/96K 01:53L War and Peace: PreludeM Ken Russell 74561,271N J. L. Bell 72114,451 Heroes Heroic History Hitler Horatio However Ideas Identifying Iliad Increases Indicated Ineptitude Information Innocence Insane Intelligent Interested Interesting Intrigued Intriguing GHave to go to work now. Will talk to you again. I like Hamlet, really. Sorry I was flippant before 08/08/96D 18:35E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 922619I 922466J 07/30/96K 17:14L CRG: HamletM Henry Slofstra 73623,403N Charles Lewis 72356,3326 NUnfortunately -- for them anyway -- most of that cast is no longer with us. -Henry Slofstra 08/08/96D 18:36E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 922732I 922464J 07/31/96 JSmith and Brian Bedford. The latter has never left the Stratford stage.) -Henry Slofstra 08/08/96D 18:35E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 922319J 07/29/96K 22:01L CRG: HamletM Henry Slofstra 73623,403N Charles Lewis 72356,3326 5>> It's been too quiet for the last several days. << two time periods and contrasts >> << It would be interesting to see Hamlet done in Nazi Germany, with Claudius as Hitler and Polonius as head of the Gestapo! >> They could call it Hamlets Heroes. Werner Klemperer as Polonius, Bob Crane (name correct?) as Hamlet. General Burkhaldter as Claudius. Brunehilda (name correct?) as Gertrude. Sgt. Shultz can do both R&G - hes big enough. << 2I can't wait for the production! Will you direct? 08/08/96D 18:35E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G Votes Wanting Wasn't We'll We're Weakness Weeks Weren't Werner Western Whether Which While Willing Wisdom Without Worthy Wrong Wrote Yeat's Yoicks Yorick Young Youre Youth by the Yorick speech he would had been back home learning the ropes on his father's side. But, he is a boy, intelligent, spoilt and - in a panic. And yes - he's gone mad, not insane just mad in American sense )- angry, livid. He is also scared stiff. By the way, I wasn't serious about the Oedipus complex at all. Most kids would react in a similar way if their mother was consorting with the enemy - re-marriage causes problems in all the families anyway. Claudius Clear Close Collaboration Comedies Coming-of-age Command Comments Comparing Complex Condemn Confrontation Confusing Conrad Conrad's Consciousness Consorting 08/08/96D 18:35E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 924138I 923635J 08/04/96K 19:54L War and Peace: PreludeM Henry Slofstra 73623,403N rick wallach 103361,40 On Hamlets madness: Not like Ophelias madness, who was out and out bonkers. However, I dont think that Hamlet could help his madness which means that it was not entirely a discretionary state. There was no doubt a part of his consciousness which recognized his madness, but IMO he was not entirely sane either. He seems quite mad when he slays Polonius, and again in lewd converse with Ophelia. To Charles Lewis: These Things Think Thinks Third Though Thought Thoughts Three Through Times Title Today Tolstoy Topics Toyed Traditions Tragic Traveling Truth Tucked Unfortunately Union United Unnamed Unruly Until Upset Vacilates Vague Version Young Youth Zon to topics like how far Polonius is a 'tedious old fool' or whether Hamlet is mad, yet! $What do you think on these. BTW? << On Polonius: Many contradictions in Polonius. Hamlet doesnt think much of him -- an opinion borne of his disdain for politics and Polonius association with Claudius. Poloniuss parting speech to Laertes \shows great wisdom and contradicts the rest of the man. Tedious old fool is stretching it. I'm a big Conrad fan, so when I came across a 'romance' novel (the name eludes me now) written by him and Ford Ford, I had to get it. Haven't read it though. Sounds like an interesting team. Know anything about it? 08/08/96D 18:36E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 924483I 924372J 08/06/96K 01:44L CRG: SECRET SHARERM"Lynne Perednia/Co-SLS6 102777,3134N E. Sullivan 76002,2454 thanks for your mail. Angry Antic Anyone Anything Anyway Appreciated Argue Argument Around Asked Association Bible Borne Brian Camus Canada's Clear Close Comedies Conrad Contradictions Could Cranford Decision Defect Definitely Discovers Discussion Disdain Disposition Doesnt Va short version of HofD without the racism? Is Conrad really a fuddy duddy at heart? Regards, Lynne 08/08/96D 18:36E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 924372I 923351J 08/05/96K 17:42L CRG: SECRET SHARERM E. Sullivan 76002,2454N"Lynne Perednia/Co-SLS6 102777,3134 The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 924538J 08/06/96K 04:42L Tom Clancy BooklistM Conrad Kageyama 76703,1010N That's Their Theories There Three Times Tolstoy Topics Unfortunately Until Upset Votes Wasn't We'll We're Whether Which While Wisdom Would Wrong Young Youth Invented James Joseph Joyce Justice Killing King's Klemperer Knowledge/understand 08/08/96D 18:35E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 922094J 07/29/96K 07:07L War and Peace: PreludeM John Bachelor 73727,3017N Henry Slofstra 73623,403 Well, here's my last stab at it. It does seem we're reaching some middle ground on this, and the discussion has shed a lot of light on the play for me.I did want to reply to a few of the posts that piled up win my mailbox while I was away. To avoid the problems of replying to old messages, heres my final thoughts on Hamlet. To Gill Othen: N>> >>If Hamlet could be said to have a defect, I would say it was his youth<< I know *you* weren't, but I think old Freud was. I've never read his analysis, but I have read *about* it, and I gather he was quite serious. 08/08/96D 18:35E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 923947I 923848J 08/04/96K 02:26L CRG: HamletM Mira Brown 100425,170N Charles Lewis 72356,3326 MWell, after all, he invented sex - it's become a serious business ever since 08/08/96D 18:35E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 924604I 922319J 08/06/96 Haven't Heart Hello Helplessness Henry Here's Herein Heres Heroes wever Increases Ineptitude Innocence Insane Interesting James Joyce Justice King's Ophelia Ophelias Opinion Opinions Othen Outrage Overload m'The handsome Vera smiled contemptuously but did not seem at all hurt... She stopped and smiled scornfully.' CRG: HamletM Charles Lewis 72356,3326N Thanks for all the postings on Hamlet. It's been an enjoyable month! The diversity of opinions only reinforces my believe that this is one of Shakespeare's richest productions. 08/08/96D 18:35E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 922466I 922319J 07/30/96K 09:17L CRG: HamletM Charles Lewis 72356,3326N Henry Slofstra 73623,403 Membership Messages Middle Mirroring Miserables Mistake Modern Moment Month Month's Mother Mountain Mousetrap Myself Naivete Narrative Narrators Nature Never Ni-ikns Noble Nominees Novel Number Obligations Oedipus Outrage Point Points Political Politics Polonius Poloniuss Portion Portrait Postings Posts Pretensions Pretty Prince Privilege Probably Problems Production Productions Proof Protagonist Proust Question Quiet Quite Quoting R&g's Racism Rather Re-marriage Reaching React Reading Really Tally Tells Thanks Standing Started d about 1/10 of W&P, and I'm bogging down. The dialog seems more like a soap opera than real conversation, and the story line jumps back and forth between the families so much that I'm Tcontinually going back to the list of characters to find out who I'm reading about. " Camus, A. THE STRANGER ' Conrad, J. THE SECRET SHARER Gaskell, E. CRANFORD $ Hugo, V. LES MISERABLES ( James, H. PORTRAIT OF A LADY Joyce, J. 'The Dead' ( Mann, T. THE MAGIC MOUNTAIN 0 Proust, M. REMEMBRANCE OF THINGS PAST Shakespeare, W. HAMLET # Tolstoy, L. WAR AND PEACE has a website at www.powells.com. Bookstacks Ive avoided quoting your entire argument. Very interesting. Certainly, there is a lack of context -- traditions, system of law, adherence to social convention -- in the play. Perhaps this is what happens when the king is law, and the king is corrupt. I had thought this was characteristically medieval, not modern. Based on your comments, could we be slipping into some kind of Dark Ages? To Charles Lewis: 3 1000 bc - 500 bc: Greek Heroic Age . 500 bc - 0: Greek city states ) 0 - 500 ad: Roman Empire ' Second cycle: 500 ad - 2000 ad , 500 ad - 1000 ad: Dark Ages . 1000 ad - 1500 ad: Fuedal Age 5 1500 ad - 2000 ad: Modern Empire Age ) Third Cycle: 2000 ad - 3500 ad ? 4 2000 ad - 2500 ad: a new dark age ? 922412 Easier Either Eludes Embarking Empire Empires Enemy Enigmatic Enjoy Enjoyable Enjoyed Enough Entire Entirely Europe Everyone Evocative Excess Expectancy Experience Explicitly Exploration Explosion Express Extremely Falling Families Father's Filial Final Captain Captain's Catching Causes Century Certainly Characteristically Charles Cheering Civilization Civilized Classics Claudius he Nobel prize (which, of *course, this Swedish guys will never do). Best wishes Michael 08/08/96D 18:38E The Literary TopicsF Fiction [6]G 925044J 08/07/96K 22:22L Thomas Wolfe FestivalM Amanda G. Phily 76173,3525N